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DeepSeek V4.1 Flash vs Qwen3.8 Max

A side by side look at published price, context window and benchmark scores for these two models. Every number links to its source. A missing field means that model has not published a number for that metric.

What this means for your work

DeepSeek V4.1 Flash costs far less ($0.30 in, $1.20 out at peak hours vs $2 and $6) and produces text about four times faster at the settings tested. Both score 45 on the Artificial Analysis index, and Qwen3.8 Max is slightly higher on both LMArena boards. If cost and speed drive your choice, DeepSeek leads here; on quality, these two are close.

Input price

Lower is better
DeepSeek V4.1 Flash $0.30
Qwen3.8 Max $2.00

DeepSeek V4.1 Flash: source Vendor pricing page, as of Oct 19, 2026. deepseek-flash peak cache-miss per 1M; off-peak is $0.15; model version DeepSeek-V4.1-Flash-1017

Qwen3.8 Max: source Vendor pricing page, as of Oct 27, 2026. international deployment, qwen3.8-max and qwen3.8-max-0902, input up to 1M tokens; other scopes list $1.65

Output price

Lower is better
DeepSeek V4.1 Flash $1.20
Qwen3.8 Max $6.00

DeepSeek V4.1 Flash: source Vendor pricing page, as of Oct 19, 2026. peak output per 1M; off-peak is $0.60

Qwen3.8 Max: source Vendor pricing page, as of Oct 27, 2026. international deployment per 1M, chain-of-thought plus answer; other scopes list $4.951

Context window

Higher is better
DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1M tokens
Qwen3.8 Max 1M tokens

DeepSeek V4.1 Flash: source Vendor model page, as of Oct 19, 2026. context length listed as 1M

Qwen3.8 Max: source Vendor model page, as of Oct 27, 2026. Model Studio market card for Qwen3.8-Max, latest qwen3.8-max-0902, 1M context window

Output speed

Higher is better
DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 170.2 tok/s
Qwen3.8 Max 40.8 tok/s

DeepSeek V4.1 Flash: source Artificial Analysis, as of Oct 27, 2026. 1017 max; DeepSeek API

Qwen3.8 Max: source Artificial Analysis, as of Oct 27, 2026. 0902; Alibaba API

Time to first token

Lower is better

For reasoning settings, Artificial Analysis counts thinking time before the first answer token, so long waits are expected on max effort modes.

DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1.17 s
Qwen3.8 Max 2.86 s

DeepSeek V4.1 Flash: source Artificial Analysis, as of Oct 27, 2026. 1017 max; DeepSeek API; AA FAQ TTFT

Qwen3.8 Max: source Artificial Analysis, as of Oct 27, 2026. 0902; Alibaba API; AA FAQ TTFT

Artificial Analysis Intelligence Index

Higher is better

Composite of several evaluations run by Artificial Analysis at the setting shown.

DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 45 points
Qwen3.8 Max 45 points

DeepSeek V4.1 Flash: source Artificial Analysis, as of Oct 27, 2026. DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 max; AA index integer

Qwen3.8 Max: source Artificial Analysis, as of Oct 27, 2026. Qwen3.8 Max (0902); AA index integer

LMArena Text score

Higher is better

Bars start at 1300, not 0, to make differences easier to see.

DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1464
Qwen3.8 Max 1484

DeepSeek V4.1 Flash: source LMArena Text, as of Oct 22, 2026. Reported for DeepSeek-V4.1-Flash-20260910 (Max).

Qwen3.8 Max: source LMArena Text, as of Oct 22, 2026. Reported for Qwen3.8-Max.

LMArena WebDev score

Higher is better

Bars start at 1300, not 0, to make differences easier to see.

DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1665
Qwen3.8 Max 1673

DeepSeek V4.1 Flash: source LMArena WebDev, as of Oct 23, 2026. Reported for DeepSeek-V4.1-Flash-20261017 (Max).

Qwen3.8 Max: source LMArena WebDev, as of Oct 23, 2026. Reported for Qwen3.8-Max (0902).

All metrics

MetricDeepSeek V4.1 FlashQwen3.8 Max
Input price $0.30as of Oct 19, 2026$2.00as of Oct 27, 2026
Output price $1.20as of Oct 19, 2026$6.00as of Oct 27, 2026
Context window 1M tokensas of Oct 19, 20261M tokensas of Oct 27, 2026
Output speed 170.2 tok/sas of Oct 27, 202640.8 tok/sas of Oct 27, 2026
Time to first token 1.17 sas of Oct 27, 20262.86 sas of Oct 27, 2026
Artificial Analysis Intelligence Index 45 pointsas of Oct 27, 202645 pointsas of Oct 27, 2026
LMArena Text score 1464as of Oct 22, 20261484as of Oct 22, 2026
LMArena WebDev score 1665as of Oct 23, 20261673as of Oct 23, 2026

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